tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post7372686414484476724..comments2024-03-16T12:45:12.251-04:00Comments on Raised By Wolves: Black and White?Heather Houlahanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-71037138779913173222009-06-04T17:34:48.707-04:002009-06-04T17:34:48.707-04:00It is frustrating. I remember when our rooster got...It is frustrating. I remember when our rooster got into a fight with an urban predator.<br /><br />We opted to let him heal but he never recovered mentally and eventually died.<br /><br />Hard to make that choice--a humane kill or let him live for another day.<br /><br />Great post on an issue many people don't even think about.<br /><br />Just read some interesting lab animal welfare stuff the other day...it would be nice if they all were given the same consideration as other animals--but there is a vast difference between those too depending where you are and what industry the animal does (or does not) dwell.Ark Layhttp://www.arkanimals.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-16765575928809236852009-06-04T11:23:06.646-04:002009-06-04T11:23:06.646-04:00Erika, Part IV, up today, is starting to address t...Erika, Part IV, up today, is starting to address this.<br /><br />I have the book <i>Stolen for Profit</i>; it's one of the reasons my guys are chipped, tattooed, and protected by a deranged shotgun-owning Momma.<br /><br />Our good friend Donald McCaig dramatized the plight of the stolen dog in research in <i>Nop's Trials.</i><br /><br />I suspect that nowadays, larger numbers of dogs are stolen for puppymill breeding stock than for the cardio lab. This is especially true since the fad for "designer" mongrels has freed the millers up from any need to even pretend documentation on the parents. Poodles of all sizes and little mop dogs of various sorts would be most vulnerable.Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-23392910255775920152009-06-03T18:05:56.790-04:002009-06-03T18:05:56.790-04:00I'm a little miffed at that article for slanti...I'm a little miffed at that article for slanting the story as "a terrible kind of thing that used to happen, back in the bad old days." Dogs and cats are still stolen every day and sold for medical research.<br /><br />Here in Washington, the UW has frequently come under fire for buying stolen animals for use in their cardiology and pulmonary studies. In theory they now check the paperwork carefully. In practice, you'll notice that the majority of missing dogs in the greater Seattle area are large breeds with broad chests (huskies, labs, etc). <br /><br /><a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Stolen-for-Profit/Judith-Reitman/e/9780821749517" rel="nofollow">Stolen For Profit</a> (published 1995) lays all of this out in an interesting, informative, and thoroughly depressing manner.Erikahttp://redshirtknitting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-37850833408786983552009-06-03T14:38:32.522-04:002009-06-03T14:38:32.522-04:00Poor Henry. Poor birds.Poor Henry. Poor birds.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13545617827996043666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-54267194301917715562009-06-03T13:57:13.314-04:002009-06-03T13:57:13.314-04:00Aspirin dissolved in water is recommended - specif...Aspirin dissolved in water is recommended - specifically for poultry - by Mississippi State U at 25 grains (5, 5-grain tablets)/gallon or 324 mg/gallon of drinking water. The dosage rate is about 25 mg/lb body weight per day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-33840088018444555702009-06-03T13:48:59.464-04:002009-06-03T13:48:59.464-04:00Oh, and the Merck Veterinary Manual, though it has...Oh, and the Merck Veterinary Manual, though it has a handy table of pain medications used in LIZARDS, has apparently NO information on pain or pain control in its large poultry section.Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-4141551776734052122009-06-03T13:33:15.965-04:002009-06-03T13:33:15.965-04:00Did 'dat. And many other non-latinate word co...Did 'dat. And many other non-latinate word combos. Lots of hits -- but no <i>information.</i><br /><br />Except, as you found, abstracts that bemoan the lack of knowledge on pain in birds.<br /><br />And <i>chickens?!</i> They are not parrots, so fuggedaboutit.<br /><br />I don't think "mammal pain control" would give us much good information, cuz it turns out, a rat is not a pig is not a dog is not a boy. And absolutely nothing is a cat.<br /><br />I guess, like newborn babies, chickens can't feel it.Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5810033429461791744.post-41464513390449173332009-06-03T13:25:24.425-04:002009-06-03T13:25:24.425-04:00I feel your pain and indignation on this matter - ...I feel your pain and indignation on this matter - but, my erudite friend, you may want to consider using smaller words when you search the googles. If you google : avain pain control : you'll get lots of hits.<br /><br />Apparently you can give Henery aspirin or butorphanol or carprofen, though no dosage information was available and several journal articles did - like you - bemoan the fact that pain in birds is a subject that has been little studied.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com